Android into Win10

[Wally J]

I took a lengthy video on my phone yesterday, the first day of the Tour
of Britain cycling race. The minutes prior to the peloton arriving were
quite spectacular. A host of 20/30 motorcycle cops race up in an almost
military troop, cut off all traffic left and right, set up blocks
everywhere. And then the cyclists appear, cheered by all the people
who've rushed out of their homes to find out what all that brigade of
motorcycle cops is doing.
Well, to the point.
I plug the phone by USB cable into my Win10 computer, the phone sings a
little song, the computer shows no sign of it.
I plug it into a TV, same little song from the phone, not recognised by
the TV's media function.
I can't find what app is playing the recognition tune on the phone.
Help please.
Ed

There isn't an Android-to-PC connection method ever suggested on these
newsgroups that I haven't personally tested - so beware of details below.

1. You can connect the Android phone to Windows 10 by Bluetooth,
by Wi-Fi (over the LAN or by ad hoc Wi-Fi) or by USB cable.

Most people just plug the phone into Windows (just like any other
USB device) and Windows automatically installs the driver for it.
*Install OEM USB drivers*
<https://developer.android.com/studio/run/oem-usb>

If the correct driver isn't installed, every manufacturer provides it.
Acer -> https://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/
Alcatel -> https://www.alcatelmobile.com/support/
Asus -> https://www.asus.com/support/Download-Center/
Blackberry -> https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=4EE0932F46276313B51570F46266A608
Dell -> https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=anavml
FCNT -> https://www.fcnt.com/support/develop/#anc-03
HTC -> https://www.htc.com/support
Huawei -> https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/index.htm
Intel -> https://www.intel.com/software/android
Kyocera -> https://kyoceramobile.com/support/drivers/
Lenovo -> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/GlobalProductSelector
LGE -> https://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware
Motorola -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88481/
MTK -> http://online.mediatek.com/Public%20Documents/MTK_Android_USB_Driver.zip
Samsung -> https://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/others/android-usb-driver-for-windows
Sharp -> http://k-tai.sharp.co.jp/support/
Sony -> https://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/
Toshiba -> https://support.toshiba.com/sscontent?docId=4001814
Xiaomi -> https://web.vip.miui.com/page/info/mio/mio/detail?postId=18464849&app_version=dev.20051
ZTE -> http://support.zte.com.cn/support/news/NewsDetail.aspx?newsId=1000442

2. Either way (BT, Wi-Fi or USB) there are a multitude of connection tools
all of which I've personally used - and all of which have been discussed
(ad infintum) on both these Android and the Windows Usenet newsgroups.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
<https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10>

Offhand, some of the Android/Windows file-sharing solutions discussed have been
AirDroid <https://www.airdroid.com/personal/>
ADB <https://developer.android.com/tools/adb>
AFT MTP client <https://whoozle.github.io/android-file-transfer-linux/>
DirectNetDrive <http://www.directnet-drive.net/>
FTPUse <https://www.ferrobackup.com/download/FtpUseInst.exe>
Fb-adb Android Linux shell <https://github.com/facebook/fb-adb>
Ftpuse <https://www.ferrobackup.com/map-ftp-as-disk.html>
Go-mtpfs MTP FUSE filesystem <https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs>
Gphotofs Camera Linux mount <http://www.gphoto.org/proj/gphotofs/>
JMTP FS <https://github.com/JasonFerrara/jmtpfs>
KDEconnect <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kde.kdeconnect>
Kies Connect <https://www.samsung.com/africa_en/support/kies/>
LibIconv <http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libiconv.htm>
LibMTP <https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs>
LibMTP <https://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp/>
LibMTP library MTP implementation <http://libmtp.sourceforge.net>
LibUSB Win32 <http://libusb-win32.sourceforge.net/>
LibUsbK <https://sourceforge.net/projects/libusb-win32/>
LibiConv <http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libiconv.htm>
MTP support on KDE <https://cgit.kde.org/kio-mtp.git>
MTPDrive <http://mtpdrive.com/download.html>
MTPSync <https://www.adebenham.com/mtpsync/>
MTPdude <http://mtpdude.sourceforge.net>
MTPfs FUSE filesystem <https://www.adebenham.com/mtpfs/>
NetDrive 1.3.2.0 <https://filehippo.com/download_netdrive/12615/>
NetDrive 3.6.571 <http://netdrive.net/ (deprecated)
Nitroshare <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.nitroshare.android>
PhoneLink <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00083910/>
SFTP Net Drive <https://www.nsoftware.com/sftp/netdrive/>
SideSync <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sidesync.freeapp>
SMB Cifs (client) X-Plore <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lonelycatgames.Xplore>
SMB Cifs (root) <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imperioustech.www.sambaserver>
Scrcpy/sndcpy <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>
Termux copy <https://github.com/termux>
WebDav <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver>
WebDrive <https://webdrive.com/download/>
XNJB Mac OS X GUI <http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/>
(this is mostly offhand so I likely missed as many as I listed)

Personally, for myself, I'd mount the entire Android filesystem onto
Windows as a read/write Windows drive letter over Wi-Fi using WebDav.

Or, if I'm running commands from Windows to disable, install or
otherwise manipulate applications, I use adb over Wi-Fi or USB.

If I'm already using adb, then I may as well use screencopy and
soundcopy to do _all_ the Android manipulations from the PC alone.

But most people just plug the Android phone into Windows to drag and
drop any file in the user partition between the devices using that PC.

3. Of those, plenty are ad hoc Wi-Fi & USB file-sharing solutions.
Kies Connect <https://www.samsung.com/africa_en/support/kies/>
Nitroshare <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.nitroshare.android>
KDEconnect <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kde.kdeconnect>
FTPUse <https://www.ferrobackup.com/download/FtpUseInst.exe>

I've used every single one of them, and my suggestion is NitroShare
because of its simplicity but all of them work in different ways.

4. You can set up Android to act differently whenever you connect to USB
Android12 Settings > Developer options > Default USB configuration
(o) Transferring files <---- AFAIK, this is the default
(_) USB tethering
(_) MIDI
(_) Transferring images
(_) Charging phone only
I wouldn't change this from the default of "Transferring files).

5. Of course, you can do everything using just adb (on Wi-Fi or USB).

Figure out the name of it.
C:\> adb shell pm list packages | findStr /i "osmand"
C:\> adb shell pm list packages <--- list all packages on the device
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -f -3 <--- list third-party packages
C:\> adb shell pm list packages <--- list only the disabled packages
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -s <--- list only the system packages
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -u <--- list only uninstalled packages
C:\> adb shell dumpsys package packages <--- list package information
C:\> adb shell pm dump net.osmand.plus <--- list info on a package

Find out the full path to it.
C:\> adb shell pm path net.osmand.plus

Copy the installer (which is always saved on Android!) to Windows.
C:\> adb pull /data/app/long-nasty-path-net.osmand.plus/osmand-base.apk

With this method you can copy all the APKs over in one robocopy command.
C:\> adb shell dumpsys package packages | findStr /i ".apk$"
The result is every app ever installed gets a Windows backup of its APK.

Stop it.
C:\> adb shell am force-stop net.osmand.plus

Disable it.
C:\> adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 net.osmand.plus

Remove it.
C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 net.osmand.plus

Note if adb can see it, then adb can copy it over to Windows.
C:\> adb pull "/data/data/com.pkg.test/files/" .

Even if you're not rooted (most people aren't) you can copy your
Windows HOSTS file to Android if you know a few of the tricks.
<https://superuser.com/questions/938751/i-am-trying-to-push-the-file-using-adb-to-my-android-device>

Note also that "local adb" eliminates the need for the Windows PC.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.draco.ladb>

5. Most Android phones have an sdslot so another option is to use
Android to put the video onto that sd card and pop it into the PC.

Having tested every single file copy method ever proposed on both
the Windows and Android newsgroups, my recommendation is to KISS.

a. Connect your Android phone to Windows by USB (for KISS simplicity).
b. If the phone doesn't show up in "My Computer" install OEM drivers.
c. Usually that works

If you can't get the OEM drivers to work, then I'd try the WebDav
servers on Android (unfortunately SMB servers on Android have issues).

If you can't get the WebDav servers to work, then I'd use adb with
scrcpy/sndcpy which mirrors the phone onto the PC.

That's mostly what I do all day every day.

One advantage is my phone becomes 20 inches tall by 9 inches wide
on my computer monitor - and I can use the keyboard & clipboard too.

Also, the sound is the one coming out of the computer and not the
phone - so I can loudly watch all the YouTube videos I want to at
a size that is 20 inches by 9 inches without ever seeing an ad.

[Wally J]

Post by Wally J

I plug the phone by USB cable into my Win10 computer, the phone sings a
little song, the computer shows no sign of it.

There isn't an Android-to-PC connection method ever suggested on these
newsgroups that I haven't personally tested - so beware of details below.

Oooops........

In my zeal to be of help to a fellow Usenet poster asking a question, I had
belatedly realized I was only responding to "the computer shows no sign of it"
where I ended up going into a long-winded VanguardLH-like detail over that topic.

Post by Wally J

I can't find what app is playing the recognition tune on the phone.

I would think your built-in Android app drawer (mine is activated by pressing
the middle button on the bottom of my homescreen) would show you the app playing.

I can get my built-in Android 12 app drawer function by pressing the middle
button (the round circle) on the bottom of my homescreen - which pops up
a. Frequent apps
b. Recent apps
c. New/Updated apps
Where I'd think the app playing the song should show up in the "Recent apps".

Another obvious way to get a list of all the apps your Android phone has
recently run is to go to Settings > Apps > Your apps

On my Android 12 Galaxy, next to "Your apps" is a hamburger with the options
Show system apps = (on/off) <--- off by default
Filter by (o)All (_)Enabled (_)Disabled <--- All by default
Sort by (o)Name (_)Size (_)Last used (_)Last updated <--- Name by default
I would think switching that option to "Last used" should tell you the app.

However, one not entirely foolproof way to find an app that is "doing something"
is to look at your Android notification history (which may tell you the app).
Settings -> Notifications -> Advanced settings -> Notification history

Since that's such a useful command, and since it's buried four steps down
into my Android 12 Settings, I bring it up to the top on the homescreen.

This puts a one-tap shortcut to that location in your dock shortcuts folder.
1. Optionally put a convenient folder for "shortcuts" in your dock
2. Install the free ad-free Shortcut Inspector (which finds activity names)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cemique.shortcutwidgets>
3. Install the free ad-free Shortcut Maker (which opens public activities)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rk.android.app.shortcutmaker>
4. Start Shortcut Inspector & go back to the Settings on your homescreen
5. Settings -> Notifications -> Advanced settings -> Notification history
6. Go back to Shortcut Inspector and note it shows the name of that activity
7. Name=com.android.settings.notification.history.NotificationHistoryActivity
8. Start Shortcut Maker & tap Activities & tap Settings & find that activity
9. Modify the shortcut name & icon (as desired) & press "Create Shortcut"
10. That adds a shorcut on your homescreen direct to your notification history

Be aware there are other free ad-free shortcut-maker apps to do the same things
but they're a bit harder to use. Here's one example where I'll show how to use it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alextern.shortcuthelper>
ShortcutCreator -> Application -> Settings (337 Public Activities)

Notice that you can stop at step 6 to unambiguously find not only the app
that was playing the song - but the EXACT page inside that app running it.

I'm sure if I think about it for another minute I can double the size of
these various suggestions - but one of them should work (I would hope).

[Wally J]

Well, to the point.
I plug the phone by USB cable into my Win10 computer, the phone sings a little song, the computer shows no sign of it.
I plug it into a TV, same little song from the phone, not recognised by the TV's media function.
I can't find what app is playing the recognition tune on the phone.
Help please.
Ed

There should be a prompt on the phone so you can change the usb to 'charge' or 'data' or some wording like that.
You may have it covered by some app.

We've had this discussion in the past on the Android newsgroup
where I'm sure we can find that topic covered in the archives.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>

From memory, the settings you speak of, AFAICR, used to be obvious
in the Android settings, but they have been hidden in newer releases.

On my Android 12 Galaxy, they are gone in the normal Settings.
They were moved to the "Developer options" settings instead.

Dunno why.

Android12 Settings > Developer options > Default USB configuration
(o) Transferring files <---- AFAIK, this is the default
(_) USB tethering
(_) MIDI
(_) Transferring images
(_) Charging phone only
I wouldn't change this from the default of "Transferring files).

Ed Cryer, the OP, seems to have two problems being asked confusingly.
1. His phone doesn't show up in Windows, and,
2. He doesn't know what's playing his songs on Android

I provided two long-winded (Vanguard-like) responses to both of those.

In a shorter version, since I'm a nice guy (like Paul is) who cares
very much that people get the answers they need - I'd recommend...

For the first problem, I'd install/re-install the OEM drivers.
For the second problem, I'd search the "Recent apps" in the app drawer.

Until the OP does those two most basic of debugging steps, I really
shouldn't have gone into all the (Vanguard-like) detail that I did.

Mostly I had added all that detail to edify everyone else, since
I've tested every solution ever mentioned on these two newsgroups,
and hence I can save thousands of people a lot of valuable time.

[Wally J]

*Date:* Mon, 4 Sep 2023 18:24:38 +0100
I took a lengthy video on my phone yesterday, the first day of the
Tour of Britain cycling race. The minutes prior to the peloton
arriving were quite spectacular. A host of 20/30 motorcycle cops
race up in an almost military troop, cut off all traffic left and
right, set up blocks everywhere. And then the cyclists appear,
cheered by all the people who've rushed out of their homes to find
out what all that brigade of motorcycle cops is doing.
Well, to the point.
I plug the phone by USB cable into my Win10 computer, the phone
sings a little song, the computer shows no sign of it.
I plug it into a TV, same little song from the phone, not
recognised by the TV's media function.
I can't find what app is playing the recognition tune on the phone.
Help please.

Ask in an Android newsgroup?

The OP's first question was a Windows question.
(the computer shows no sign of the phone being connected by USB)

The OP's second question was an Android question.
(I can't find what app is playing the recognition tune on the phone)

So I replied (to both, separately) to both newsgroups.
... however ...

I was led astray by the super confusing way the OP asked the question.
Only moments ago, as I pasted that above, did I realize that the OP isn't
asking the Android user what app is playing the song/video...

But he's asking what app played the "recognition" tune.
Sigh.

Confusion begets confusion.

Anyway, since I care the OP gets the help he needs, I strongly suspect the
app that "plays the recognition tune" is the "notification settings" in
Android.

On my Galaxy Android 12, I usually set the notification settings to
verbally speak to me what happened so I don't have to remember tunes.

1. Install Tell Me (text to WAV for notifications)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplycomplexapps.ASTellme>
2. Then type the words "I will now play your song" (or whatever)
3. Use TellMe to convert those words to a WAV file (male or female).
4. Save that WAV file into your notifications sound folder
5. For apps that can choose their own notifications, set the app
to run that notifications file whenever it is ready to play a song.

Of course, you need to know the app that is playing the song,
but I covered (in Vanguard-like gory detail) lots of ways for that.

As for Android notification sounds for apps that can't set their
own sound, IMHO the situation is atrociously primitive.

All my Android 12 can do for notification sounds (outside of the
smart apps that can set their own sounds) is the following
Settings > Notifications > Advanced Settings >

In "Advanced Settings" the OP can set "Show Notification Icons"
which may help the OP visually figure out what's going on, as
is the option to "Show icon badges" and "Notification reminders".

Better still, as I covered in detail to make a one-tap shortcut,
there is an option there for "Notification history" which should,
I would think, provide the OP with the last "stuff" that happened.

What might help the OP is the separate section in Settings for
Settings > Sounds and vibration > Notification sound
But the problem with that primitive option is you can't set it
to something intelligent such as a WAV file that speaks what it is.

In summary, if the Android phone is making a sound, and if the OP
has no idea what is making that sound, I'd suspect notifications.

[Wally J]

Post by Wally J
In summary, if the Android phone is making a sound, and if the OP
has no idea what is making that sound, I'd suspect notifications.

Of course, as I think more about how to help the OP, it could be he's
saying the PC made the notification sound... and not the Android...

Sigh...

In _that_ case, I'd use what I consider the best USB debugger alive
where Paul was the first person to suggest this most excellent tool!
<https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html>

Although VanguardLH suggests this seemingly equally good USB debugger.
<https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html>

The debugging steps I'd suggest in that case, for the OP, might be
1. Shut down the PC & remove all possible USB connections
2. Boot the PC without the Android phone being connected by USB
3. Run the free USB debuggers listed above
4. Plug in the Android phone and watch what changes in the debuggers
5. Install the OEM drivers for the Android phone (see list below).
6. Do the process all over again and see if the OEM drivers help out.

This could find hardware problems (e.g., in the USB cable or in the port
being used on the PC) which are related to _both_ the OP's issues.
a. The phone isn't recognized on the PC, and,
b. The PC is making the ding (if that's what is making the ding that is).

Here (again) are the list of OEM drivers (with a few additional links
annotated with a dash in front as I had missed them on the first pass).
Acer -> https://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/
Alcatel -> https://www.alcatelmobile.com/support/
- Amazon -> https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/connecting-adb-to-device.html
Asus -> https://www.asus.com/support/Download-Center/
Blackberry -> https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=4EE0932F46276313B51570F46266A608
Dell -> https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=anavml
- Essential <https://storage.googleapis.com/essential-static/Essential-PH1-WindowsDrivers.exe>
FCNT -> https://www.fcnt.com/support/develop/#anc-03
- Fujitsu -> http://spf.fmworld.net/fujitsu/c/develop/sp/android/
- Google -> https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb
- Honor -> https://www.hihonor.com/global/support/suite/
HTC -> https://www.htc.com/support
Huawei -> https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/index.htm
Intel -> https://www.intel.com/software/android
Kyocera -> https://kyoceramobile.com/support/drivers/
Lenovo -> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/GlobalProductSelector
LGE -> https://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware
Motorola -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88481/
MTK -> http://online.mediatek.com/Public%20Documents/MTK_Android_USB_Driver.zip
- Nokia -> When you connect a Nokia phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
- Nvidia -> https://developer.nvidia.com/shield-open-source
- OnePlus -> When you connect a OnePlus phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
- Razer -> https://s3.amazonaws.com/cheryl-factory-images/How_to_Install_Android_Fastboot_Drivers_on_Windows.pdf
- RealMe -> https://www.realme.com/in/support/software-update
Samsung -> https://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/others/android-usb-driver-for-windows
Sharp -> http://k-tai.sharp.co.jp/support/
Sony -> https://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/
Toshiba -> https://support.toshiba.com/sscontent?docId=4001814
- Umidigi -> https://www.umidigi.com/page-Download.html
Xiaomi -> https://web.vip.miui.com/page/info/mio/mio/detail?postId=18464849&app_version=dev.20051
ZTE -> http://support.zte.com.cn/support/news/NewsDetail.aspx?newsId=1000442
See also <https://www.xda-developers.com/download-android-usb-drivers/>

There's also a generic driver which Windows installs but I don't have a
link to it - and there is a generic Google driver also (need the links).

Searching, this seems to be the generic Google Android:Windows driver.
<https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb>
<https://dl.google.com/android/repository/usb_driver_r13-windows.zip>
Name: usb_driver_r13-windows.zip
Size: 8682039 bytes (8478 KiB)
SHA256: 360B01D3DFB6C41621A3A64AE570DFAC2C9A40CCA1B5A1F136AE90D02F5E9E0B
Which extracts to various Windows cab and dll files (a whole 'nuther story)

Searching, we all know Windows should be installing the driver automatically
(plug n pray); but if not, we all know there's a series of debugging tasks.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/take-back-control-driver-updates-windows-10/>

But in most cases, Windows will automatically install the correct driver.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-windows-drivers-android-phone/>

[Ed Cryer]

Post by Wally J

Post by Wally J
In summary, if the Android phone is making a sound, and if the OP
has no idea what is making that sound, I'd suspect notifications.

Of course, as I think more about how to help the OP, it could be he's
saying the PC made the notification sound... and not the Android...
Sigh...
In _that_ case, I'd use what I consider the best USB debugger alive
where Paul was the first person to suggest this most excellent tool!
<https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html>
Although VanguardLH suggests this seemingly equally good USB debugger.
<https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html>
The debugging steps I'd suggest in that case, for the OP, might be
1. Shut down the PC & remove all possible USB connections
2. Boot the PC without the Android phone being connected by USB
3. Run the free USB debuggers listed above
4. Plug in the Android phone and watch what changes in the debuggers
5. Install the OEM drivers for the Android phone (see list below).
6. Do the process all over again and see if the OEM drivers help out.
This could find hardware problems (e.g., in the USB cable or in the port
being used on the PC) which are related to _both_ the OP's issues.
a. The phone isn't recognized on the PC, and,
b. The PC is making the ding (if that's what is making the ding that is).
Here (again) are the list of OEM drivers (with a few additional links
annotated with a dash in front as I had missed them on the first pass).
Acer -> https://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/
Alcatel -> https://www.alcatelmobile.com/support/
- Amazon -> https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/connecting-adb-to-device.html
Asus -> https://www.asus.com/support/Download-Center/
Blackberry -> https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=4EE0932F46276313B51570F46266A608
Dell -> https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=anavml
- Essential <https://storage.googleapis.com/essential-static/Essential-PH1-WindowsDrivers.exe>
FCNT -> https://www.fcnt.com/support/develop/#anc-03
- Fujitsu -> http://spf.fmworld.net/fujitsu/c/develop/sp/android/
- Google -> https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb
- Honor -> https://www.hihonor.com/global/support/suite/
HTC -> https://www.htc.com/support
Huawei -> https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/index.htm
Intel -> https://www.intel.com/software/android
Kyocera -> https://kyoceramobile.com/support/drivers/
Lenovo -> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/GlobalProductSelector
LGE -> https://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware
Motorola -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88481/
MTK -> http://online.mediatek.com/Public%20Documents/MTK_Android_USB_Driver.zip
- Nokia -> When you connect a Nokia phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
- Nvidia -> https://developer.nvidia.com/shield-open-source
- OnePlus -> When you connect a OnePlus phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
- Razer -> https://s3.amazonaws.com/cheryl-factory-images/How_to_Install_Android_Fastboot_Drivers_on_Windows.pdf
- RealMe -> https://www.realme.com/in/support/software-update
Samsung -> https://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/others/android-usb-driver-for-windows
Sharp -> http://k-tai.sharp.co.jp/support/
Sony -> https://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/
Toshiba -> https://support.toshiba.com/sscontent?docId=4001814
- Umidigi -> https://www.umidigi.com/page-Download.html
Xiaomi -> https://web.vip.miui.com/page/info/mio/mio/detail?postId=18464849&app_version=dev.20051
ZTE -> http://support.zte.com.cn/support/news/NewsDetail.aspx?newsId=1000442
See also <https://www.xda-developers.com/download-android-usb-drivers/>
There's also a generic driver which Windows installs but I don't have a
link to it - and there is a generic Google driver also (need the links).
Searching, this seems to be the generic Google Android:Windows driver.
<https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb>
<https://dl.google.com/android/repository/usb_driver_r13-windows.zip>
Name: usb_driver_r13-windows.zip
Size: 8682039 bytes (8478 KiB)
SHA256: 360B01D3DFB6C41621A3A64AE570DFAC2C9A40CCA1B5A1F136AE90D02F5E9E0B
Which extracts to various Windows cab and dll files (a whole 'nuther story)
Searching, we all know Windows should be installing the driver automatically
(plug n pray); but if not, we all know there's a series of debugging tasks.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/take-back-control-driver-updates-windows-10/>
But in most cases, Windows will automatically install the correct driver.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-windows-drivers-android-phone/>

You've put so much time and effort into this, Wally J, that I feel I owe
you a special thank you.

Ed

[Wally J]

Different camera apps work differently, as you noted.

I had a Blu phone that would put everything in main memory
(of course), until you inserted an SD card. It then just
started using the SD card for a lot of things, downloads
and camera were two of the first things I saw.
It left the old folder in main, but made new ones.
Kinda confusing but nice that it move a good number of items over.

NOTE: This became long because it's a reference for one in a million people
who want to completely control their data and who never need to search.
*If you have to search - then you're doing something very wrong*

You bring up a good point in that most Android phones "bring over the data"
when you set the apps to use the portable memory sd slot for their data.

Most people do not think ahead when it comes to organizing their computing
devices (whether that's Windows or Android) where I do think ahead on both.

People who think ahead are likely one in a million - but - they have a much
easier time finding things since everything is always where it belongs.

For example, on Windows, I put *nothing* in the C:\Users directory (since
I'm the only user) and also *nothing* goes into the Program Files folders.

The data goes in C:\data and the programs go in C:\apps (although the names
aren't important - the concept is *YOU* determine where your "stuff" goes.

Obviously in C:\data and C:\apps there are well-established hierarchies.
These hierarchies last for decades since they are easily ported to new PCs.
Every PC in the household uses the same hierarchies - so it's all simple.

Nobody ever has to use the Windows "search" feature (which is disabled from
even taking space on the taskbar since a Windows search is *never* needed).

It doesn't matter what hierarchy you choose to store your data in - what
matters is the consistency and completeness of your hierarchy (e.g., I
don't allow catch-all folders such as "misc" or "utils" on any PC).

Of course, your pop-up pull-out cascaded accordion menu (which is pinned to
the taskbar on every PC and which is copied - verbatim - to any new PC)
follows *exactly* the same hierarchy as does the app directory folders.

In the end, everything makes sense, where, for example the data hierarchy
has folders of the organization c:\data\{doc,mail,sys,etc.} just as there
are logical hierarchies for where things go in C:\apps such as
c:\apps\{browsers,cleaners,editors,etc} and, as I mentioned, the menu
folders the same at c:\menu\{browsers,cleaners,editors,etc}.

Likewise, on Android, you maintain your own hierarchy at all times.
Only it's a LOT DIFFERENT on Android than it is on Windows.
You have far less control.

The trick I've found is to meld your Windows skills with Android skills.

The first thing I do when I get a new phone is populate it from the old
phone which is as simple as copying over the data and app hiearchies.

One person in a million (maybe in ten million) can do what I do because
almost everyone lets Android decide where to put apps and data.

I decide where data go on both Windows & Android (for the most part).
I decide where apps go on both Windows & Android (completely).

The most important clever thing to do is when you get a new phone, normally
you can just put the old sdcard into it and everything works just fine on
the new phone with that old sdcard (everything is where it belongs).

But sometimes with a new phone I get a new sdcard - usually bigger.
In that case, I do what I describe below - which one of a million do.

FORMAT
1. I use Windows to name the sdcard 0000-0001 (this is important!).
2. Note: Every Android sdcard is named the exact same name for me!

DATA:
3. On that sdcard, I make a top level 0001 folder (every single card!)
4. I create the data hierarchy under 0001 (\0001\{docs,maps,pics,etc}.

APPS:
5. Using the Nova launcher I back up the *exact* placement of all the
homescreen app icons on the old phone and copy that to the new phone.
6. This copies *exactly* the same app icons to the new phone, only
if the app isn't installed - the icon is grayed out temporarily.
7. To populate the apps, I generally just slide the APKs over from
Windows using screen copy (which installs APKs when you drag & drop).

But there are many ways to repopulate apps - the simplest being you
just tap on the grayed-out icon that Nova launcher brought over into
the correct place on the new homescreen and the app will re-install
from your chosen repo (I don't use the Google Play Store app but I
do use the Google Play Store repository to get the apps the first time).

Note that once you get an app from the Google Play Store repository,
the APK is automatically *not deleted!* (if you set that switch).

So you _always_ have all the APKs you ever installed on Android!

Better yet, if you robocopy over all those stored APKs as periodically
as you do with your pictures, all the APKs you ever installed are on
your Windows storage devices already.

A quick flowchart example is
a. Use Windows adb to list the full path to all stored Android APKs
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -f -3 > C:\tmp\list-of-all-apks
b. Copy all those automatically stored Android APKs over to Windows
C:\> Use robocopy to copy each of those APKs over to Windows
c. Copy them back onto the new phone to easily re-populate the apps!
(Just slide the APKs over from Windows to Android using scrcpy.)
(When you do that, the APK is installed exactly where you wanted!)

I could go on talking about how I melded Android and Windows keeping
control over the file system as much as possible, but I suspect out of a
million people who read this missive, only one will understand or care.

Note though that if you do not make a "0001" hierarchy on the Android
portable storage sdcard (and a corresponding "0000" hierarchy on your
Android permanent internal storage), you'll have a devil of a time finding
your stuff because Android - let's face it - is a mess in terms of
hierarchies it splashes all over both the internal and external cards.

The name of "0000" (for the internal card) and "0001" for the external
storage card is arbitrary - but I've chosen it so that it displays on top
because I don't normally need to mess with any other folders on Android.

It's the same with Windows where I don't normally need to mess with any
other folders than C:\{apps,data,menu,etc.} on Windows.

In summary, using your Windows and Android skills, you can easily put
everything in its place on every Android phone or Windows PC you own.

When you move from one Android phone or Windows PC to another, you just
copy (verbatim!) the folders over - and almost everything works perfectly!

[Wally J]

Post by Wally J
This could find hardware problems (e.g., in the USB cable or in the port
being used on the PC) which are related to _both_ the OP's issues.

Thanks, pal. I think you overwhelmed me with a vast quantity of help,
but I can see you had the answer too.

I'm not a normal Usenet poster who is normally here for their amusement.
I'm here to edify and to learn.

When I learn, I learn from helpful people who are smarter than I am, such
as Paul and wasbit and Stan Brown and Herbert Kleebauer and Andy Burns.

When I edify, it's to write up as completely as I can, how people who
aren't as smart as those guys are, can do the things those guys can do.

You'll note that I make generous use of the Google-archived newsgroups.
There's a reason for that (i.e., it's permanently archived).
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>

The purpose is to leverage the appreciable expense of effort to many!

That way the few people who know how to run a Google Usenet-article search
can find the data, now and far into the future - but also the less informed
who only know how to run a "normal" Google search find the data also.

Many (many!) times, for example, I've run a Google or DuckDuckGo or MetaGer
search where the first page of hits has some of my best Usenet tutorials.

I do all this because I am a good person who cares that others get answers.

[Ed Cryer]

Post by Wally J

Post by Wally J
This could find hardware problems (e.g., in the USB cable or in the port
being used on the PC) which are related to _both_ the OP's issues.

Thanks, pal. I think you overwhelmed me with a vast quantity of help,
but I can see you had the answer too.

I'm not a normal Usenet poster who is normally here for their amusement.
I'm here to edify and to learn.
When I learn, I learn from helpful people who are smarter than I am, such
as Paul and wasbit and Stan Brown and Herbert Kleebauer and Andy Burns.
When I edify, it's to write up as completely as I can, how people who
aren't as smart as those guys are, can do the things those guys can do.
You'll note that I make generous use of the Google-archived newsgroups.
There's a reason for that (i.e., it's permanently archived).
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>
The purpose is to leverage the appreciable expense of effort to many!
That way the few people who know how to run a Google Usenet-article search
can find the data, now and far into the future - but also the less informed
who only know how to run a "normal" Google search find the data also.
Many (many!) times, for example, I've run a Google or DuckDuckGo or MetaGer
search where the first page of hits has some of my best Usenet tutorials.
I do all this because I am a good person who cares that others get answers.

There are few NGs these days that are worthwhile; so many are flooded
with spam and trolling.
This one is among a few of the better ones.

I like your ideas of passing solutions into Google's top brackets.
Another way I've seen used is to post with "SOLVED" in the title. And
then a search in Google's Advanced Groups Search page will find them.

Ed

[John Hall]

In message <ud9eun$2e995$***@dont-email.me>, Ed Cryer
<***@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes
<big snip>

Post by Ed Cryer
There are few NGs these days that are worthwhile; so many are flooded
with spam and trolling.
This one is among a few of the better ones.

I find that the news sever I use - NIN - does an excellent job of
filtering out spam, so I hardly ever see any. It can't help with the
trolls, of course.

[Alan]

Post by Wally J
This could find hardware problems (e.g., in the USB cable or in the port
being used on the PC) which are related to _both_ the OP's issues.

Thanks, pal. I think you overwhelmed me with a vast quantity of help,
but I can see you had the answer too.

I'm not a normal...

...human?

We know, Arlen.

We know.

:-)